
www.dacenvforum.org.uk
Dacorum Environmental Forum
Full Meeting – 16th October 2008
MINUTES
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Phil Pennington |
DEF Chairman |
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Norman Cutting |
Berkhamsted Citizens’ Association |
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Paul Harris |
Friends of the Earth |
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Sylvia Davidson |
DEF Water Group |
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Cllr Neil Harden |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Roger Hands |
DEF Water Group/Box Moor Trust |
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Rudolf Kirst |
Hemel Hempstead GM Action Group |
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Cllr Bert Chapman |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Cllr John Lythgoe |
Berkhamsted Town Council |
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Jean Blackman |
Friends of the Earth |
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Cllr Garrick Stevens |
Berkhamsted Town Council |
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Lizzy Savage |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Douglas Walker |
Resident |
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Andy Hardstaff |
Countryside Management Service |
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Gruff Edwards |
New Conservation Society, DEF
Vice-Chairman |
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Richard Blackburn |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Tim Vaughan |
Tring and Berkhamsted Cycling Campaign |
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Marion Baker |
Transition Town Berkhamsted |
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Danny Bonnet |
Transition Town Berkhamsted |
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Adrienne Gear |
Community Action Dacorum |
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Jason Williams |
Friends of Shrubhill Common |
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Hazel Johnson |
Green Party |
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Alan Johnson |
Great Gaddesden Parish Council |
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Peter Thring |
CPRE Hertfordshire, Chiltern Society |
49. Apologies
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Cllr Carole Green |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Cllr David Nobbs |
Chipperfield Parish Council |
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Cllr Brian Jones |
Northchurch Parish Council |
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Cllr Alan Anderson |
Dacorum Borough Council |
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Dennis Harvey |
Hemel Nature |
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Mary Dyson |
Lions Club Berkhamsted |
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Veronica & John Allan |
Tring in Transition |
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Emma Norrington |
Groundwork |
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Graeme Cannon |
National Trust |
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Bruce Nixon |
Transition Town Berkhamsted |
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Jenny Habib |
The Chiltern Society |
50. Welcome
Phil Pennington welcomed everybody to the meeting.
51. Minutes from the Meeting held on 10th
July 2008 and Matters Arising
The minutes from the meeting held on 10th
July 2008 were approved. Both Gruff
Edwards and Paul Harris reported that they had sent press releases to the
Gazette but none of the press releases had been published.
Richard Blackburn (RB) reported that there would be
a more focussed consultation on the Local Development Framework between 3rd
November and 15th December 2008.
This will still form part of the initial consultation looking at which
potential sites should be taken forward.
They still have a number of studies to complete and they have completed
most of the place workshops. The Hemel
Hempstead place workshop will take place in December.
Jean Blackman asked if the legal challenge was still
going ahead.
RB reported that it is but he has received no
further information. All Local
Authorities have been instructed to continue with the Regional Plan.
Gruff Edwards (GE) mentioned that at the last
meeting he had asked RB if DEF’s response to the consultation had been included
in the Council’s response and RB had confirmed that it had. GE stated his disappointment that DEF’s
concerns did not appear to be reflected in the Plan.
Roger Hands (RH) stated that the Water Group had
responded separately to consultation. He
also made a plea for more Dacorum representation at Chiltern Society meetings
as he feels Dacorum should be considered more during discussions about the AONB
Sylvia Davidson reported that there had been no
further news regarding the herbicides but she was unaware of it causing
problems in Dacorum.
There were no further matters arising.
52. DEF Water Group Update – Roger Hands
RH reported that the website was being developed to
become a reflection of their activities and believed it was a better way of
getting information out. He offered
thanks to Marion Baker for her assistance. The website address is www.defwatergroup.org.uk
RH reported that he was also disappointed with the
Gazette coverage and stated his intention to contact them again.
He reported that they have received approval from
Herts Highways to put an article about motorway run-off on the website.
He stated that the utilities companies and the
Environment Agency (EA) are seeing that the Water Groups endeavours are
properly represented and not excitable.
The River Gade Sustainability Study working party has completed their task
and the project has been handed back to the EA.
The Water Group has sent emails to the EA regarding
the Draft Water Resource Management Plans.
The EA reported that they have been passed on DEFRA but the response
indicated that they are taking the Water Group’s efforts seriously. He stressed his concerns about the Growth
area placing stress on the aquifer and the importance of looking at the River
Basin as the aquifer goes beyond political boundaries.
RH mentioned that a number of organisations are applying
to join the Water group including British Waterways and Thames Water
(Berkhamsted Sewage Works). He expressed
his concerns over lack of funds.
Marion Baker (MB) stated that she attended Herts
Funding Fair recently and recommended that RH investigate a Grass Roots Fund
for small projects (less than £5000).
Hazel Johnson asked where the reed beds would be
installed. RH stated that they would be
at Berkhamsted Sewage Works on the north side of the canal.
PP suggested that there might be funding available
to assist with the Water Group.
47. Transition Towns – Marion
Baker
MB presented to the group an introduction to
Transition Towns and Peak Oil. A copy of
her presentation will be attached to the minutes.
48. Sustainable Communities
Act – Danny Bonnett
Danny Bonnett (DB) stated that at Transition Town
Berkhamsted’s third public meeting they welcomed a speaker from Unlock
Democracy/Local Works to talk about the Sustainable Communities Act which is
intended to give more power to local communities.
The aim of the Act is to assist Local Authorities in
promoting the sustainability of local communities and works on the idea of
double devolution – powers devolved from National Government to Local
Authorities and then to local people’s panels.
The panels are intended to be representative of the local population and
include groups that are often under-represented.
The Act has four limbs of sustainability that it
works to: environmental, social, economic and participatory. Within the act there is a schedule of matters
to which local authorities must have regard, this is not an exclusive
list. The Act require the community to
come forward with proposals that they believe would make their community a more
sustainable place and they should meet some of the matters in the schedule.
DB provided a couple of examples including charging
out of town supermarkets business rates for their car parking spaces and giving
the revenue generated to in town businesses that do not have easy parking
access.
The Act also requires Local Spending Reports to be
produced to demonstrate where money is being spent in a local area. This will also give the community opportunity
to question what money is spent on.
DB asked Lizzy Savage (ES) if Dacorum Borough
Council (DBC) were intending to opt into the Act. ES reported that the Leader of the Council
had stated that the Council is likely to opt in but that a final decision was
awaited. The Council is also waiting for
guidance on how to set up the citizens panel and the best way to manage the
process practically.
Phil Pennington (PP) suggested taking a report to
Environment Overview & Scrutiny Committee if the Council did not move
forward with this quickly. Members of
DEF agreed. He also asked MB if there
had been a Transition Town initiative considered for the Borough. MB reported that both Tring and Berkhamsted
had become transition towns and she was aware that some people in Hemel
Hempstead were also interested. She also
stated that if anyone was interested in setting one up in Hemel Hempstead they
could contact her.
RH voiced his concerns with DB’s example for
charging business rates to all out of town businesses as his small nursery
would be hit badly by additional costs.
DB reassured RH that any proposals would need to be carefully considered
so that they were sustainable for the community as a whole.
Paul Harris (PH) stated that he thought the Act was
brilliant but was concerned that the schedule made no mention of the
availability of a clean water supply and believed it to be a weakness.
Rudolph Kirst stated that it is sufficient for DB to
inform us but DEF should be demonstrating active support for the Act.
PP stated that DEF would endorse it and Members of
DEF agreed.
GE requested more information about Transition Towns
and how they relate to the Sustainable Communities Act.
DB stated that the Totnes in Devon became the first
Transition Town two years ago.
Berkhamsted have become a Transition Town but they are still in the
awareness phase, but are soon to start the action phase. He stated that the Act is unrelated but it
provides a legal framework to help do some of the actions that would make
Berkhamsted more sustainable.
PP asked if there were any Transition Boroughs
DB said that Brighton and the London Borough of
Brixton had become Transition Towns and in Bristol a number of areas had become
Transition areas. He stated that he
thought it was best to keep it smaller to make it as relevant to the local
people as possible.
Cllr Garrick Stevens (GS) stated that there is a
framework to set up a Transition Town and there is a lot of information
available on the internet. He stated
that the Sustainable Communities Act is one of a number of new legislative
tools designed to empower our local communities.
PH stated that in Hemel Hempstead it could work
through neighbourhoods or wards.
PP stated that DEF would endorse promoting the
Transition Town initiative.
GS said that DEF should press Dacorum Borough
Council to adopt the Sustainable Communities Act.
Outcomes
DEF to support Transition Town initiatives
DEF to lobby DBC to opt into Sustainable Communities
Act
49. Cycling – Tim Vaughan
Tim Vaughan (TV) started by mentioning that cycling
has been highlighted recently through the success of the British Olympic Team
and this has come from substantial investment and is likely to lead to
increased demand in suitable facilities.
TV reported that Tring & Berkhamsted Cycling
Campaign (TBCC) had organised a very successful ‘Bikefest’ in September that
provided lots of information to the public about cycling and routes and
training to children.
TV reported that TBCC are now developing a
questionnaire so they can conduct a survey across Dacorum to gain a better
understanding cyclist needs. He asked if
opportunities were available for support.
TBCC are also looking to develop local cycling maps
but this will also involve investment but they have not yet looked into
costings.
TBCC are also lobbying for better cycling
facilities. With developments at Three
Cherry Trees Lane in Hemel Hempstead and Bank Lane in Berkhamsted there would
be opportunity to invest in suitable routes to train stations and suitable
facilities to park bikes at the station.
He asked if there was an update on the progress of the Dacorum Cycling
Strategy.
TV stated the possibility of forming a Dacorum
Cycling Forum to incorporate cycling enthusiasts in Hemel Hempstead but this is
likely to be built upon TBCC’s activities planned for next year.
ES confirmed that she had spoken to Lorna Clark and
Lorna had reported that the Dacorum Cycling Strategy is currently with Herts CC
and DBC are awaiting a response. RB
reported that parts of the strategy have been brought forward into Hemel
Hempstead’s Urban Transport Plan, which is committed to go to Cabinet in
November.
PP suggested that a Transport sub-group should be
set up again.
ES suggested that DEF could support TBCC by
providing a link from DEF’s website to the TBCC website and stated that if TV
sent her the questionnaire she would send it out to all of those on the DEF
mailing list.
PP reported that there might be a small amount of
funding available to help cover the cost of the cycling leaflets.
Jason Williams questioned whether DBC still
published cycling maps.
TV stated that they were not up to date and DBC had
not published any more.
Norman Cutting reported that he had brought Cycling
up at another meeting in Berkhamsted and there were a number of issues with new
cycling paths. If the tow path was used it may cause problems for pedestrians
and anglers, but the High Street has too many junctions. TV replied that if the towpath were to be
used it would need to be widened.
Outcomes
Link to be created on DEF website for TBCC www.tbcc.org.uk
TV to send questionnaires to ES for her to send to
DEF members
Steering Group to looking into potential funding
support
50. Dacorum Partnership –
Andy Hardstaff
Andy Hardstaff (AH) reported on progress on the
action plan since the last meeting. The
action-planning group have been meeting to work on the plan, supplemented by
work by AH and ES to condense it and make it more reader friendly.
He stated that more organisations needed to be
included and that ES and AH would speak to them individually. A new version of the action plan will be
attached to the minutes for comment. If
organisations have any more ideas for actions they would like to undertake
please contact ES.
AH reported that he had also received a proforma for
proposals for using the Local Area Agreement money. £2 million over two years (half capital, half
revenue) will be given to the Dacorum Partnership to aid meeting the aims and
objectives of the Sustainable Community Strategy. AH invited members to provide ideas for what
this money could be spent on. He
suggested that from the meeting alone there were perhaps ideas to put the money
towards cycling information. The
proforma for proposals will be attached to the minutes and AH requested that
any completed proposals be returned to ES by December 1st 2008.
Outcomes
ES to send out latest version of action plan and
proforma for proposals with minutes.
Members to put forward suggestions.
57. Any Other
Business
57.1
Computer Aid –
Cllr Garrick Stevens
GS stated his concerns about what
happens to IT equipment that is taken to the Household Waste Recycling
Centres. He introduced Computer Aid
International, a charity that refurbishes old IT equipment, clear hard drives
and then send them out to developing countries.
He wondered if there was general interest to co-ordinate this locally.
Cllr Bert Chapman (BS) stated
that the Borough and County Councils were already working on IT recycling and
DBC held a successful bring event in January with Hewlett Packard at Cupid
Green. He reported that due to its success
DBC would be organising a similar event soon.
Sylvia Davidson stated that there
was no shelter at the Recycling Centres from rain, which damages the
equipment.
DB stated that the bring days
should be more regular and more spread across the Borough so people don’t have
to travel as far.
BC stated that as technologies
develop DBC can offer more services and this is only the start of this new
service. If they continue to prove
popular DBC will look to improve the service in the future.
PP agreed that it would be
beneficial to have more regular collections.
GS reported that he was not aware
of the event at Cupid Green and agreed that it would be good if they could be
more regular.
GE commented
that the bring event in January with
Hewlett Packard at Cupid Green" was to be applauded and should be extended
to other computer-related waste items (e.g. Floppy Discs). It should also be extended to other problem
items such as tungsten filament light bulbs, that are due to be phased out
under EU legislation.
57.2
Sustainability
Week – Lizzy Savage
ES invited members of DEF to
become involved in Sustainability Week, which will be held between 12th
and 17th January 2009. She
provided a briefing note with further information, which shall be attached to
the minutes.
57.3
Dacorum Green
Team – Phil Pennington
PP reported that he and ES had
hosted the first Dacorum Youth Environmental Forum meeting in September. At the meeting the children had chosen to be
called the Dacorum Green Team, they also took part in a planning workshop
organised by RB and his team to ask the children what they would like Dacorum
to look like in 2031.
57.4
Mailing – Phil
Pennington
PP announced that agendas and
minutes would no longer be sent by post due to the cost and the amount of
paper. If Members do not have email
addresses the minutes and agendas are available on the DEF website. If Members have a specific reason why they
need to receive them by post he asked that you contact ES to confirm.
58. Next Meeting Date
The next meeting of the Dacorum Environmental Forum
will be on Thursday 17th January 2008 at 7.30pm in the Bulbourne
Room, Civic Centre.
Note: The Agendas and Minutes from the Dacorum
Environment Forum meetings can be found at www.dacenvforum.org.uk
The meeting closed at 9.30pm