
www.dacenvforum.org.uk
Dacorum Environmental Forum
Full Meeting – 17 January 2008
MINUTES
|
Phil
Pennington |
DEF
Chairman |
|
Douglas
Walker |
Resident,
DEF Vice Chairman |
|
Garrick
Stevens |
Berkhamsted
Town Council |
|
Fleur
Tucker |
Berkhamsted
Town Council |
|
Adrienne
Gear |
Community
Action Dacorum |
|
Andy
Hardstaff |
Countryside
Management Service |
|
Cllr
Alan Anderson |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Richard
Blackburn |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Cllr Bert
Chapman |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Ruth Chapman |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Cllr Neil
Harden |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Cllr Suqlaim
Mahmood |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Lizzy Savage |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Don Palmer |
Dacorum
Borough Council |
|
Veronica
Allan |
Friends of
the Earth |
|
Jean
Blackman |
Friends
of the Earth |
|
G
Darvill |
Friends
of the Earth |
|
O
Darvill |
Friends
of the Earth |
|
Paul
Harris |
Friends
of the Earth |
|
Alan
Johnson |
Green
Party/Great Gaddesden Parish Council |
|
Hazel
Johnson |
Green
Party |
|
Chris
Jones |
Hemel
Hempstead Churches |
|
Rudolf
Kirst |
Hemel
Hempstead GM Action Group |
|
Dennis
Harvey |
Hemel
Nature |
|
Sylvia
Davidson |
Water
Group |
|
Roger
Hands |
Water
Group/Box Moor Trust |
|
Norman
Cutting |
Berkhamsted
Citizens’ Association |
|
John
Lythgoe |
Berkhamsted
Town Council |
|
Emma
Norrington |
Groundwork/Resident |
|
Gruff
Edwards |
New
Conservation Society |
1.
Apologies
|
John Boielle |
Tring Cycling Campaign |
|
Mary Dyson |
Lions Club Berkhamsted |
|
Alex Evans |
Lions Club Berkhamsted |
|
David Nobbs |
Chipperfield Parish Council |
|
Guy Patterson |
Chiltern Society |
2.
Welcome
Phil Pennington welcomed everybody to the meeting.
Phil Pennington expressed his great sadness at the
death of Michael Blackman, one of the founding members of DEF, and expressed
his sympathy to Mrs Blackman who was attending the meeting.
3. Minutes from the Meeting held on 25
October 2007 and Matters Arising
The minutes from the meeting held on 25 October 2007
were approved. Lizzy Savage confirmed
that the minutes could be found on the DEF website.
There were no matters arising.
4.
Reduction of Packaging in
Dacorum
Gruff Edwards of the New Conservation Society and a
member of the Waste Management Working Group presented the campaign to reduce
packaging. Gruff will be giving a
presentation to the Environment Overview and Scrutiny Committee in March. In his presentation he reported that 16% of
household waste was packaging which also contributed to the litter
problem. A list of questions to be put
to local retailers was given and the Forum was asked to suggest additional
questions. Store Managers would be
invited to attend the DEF. A further
report would be given to the DEF detailing any responses received from
retailers.
Questions and Answers
Q.
A
prototype for recycling plastic had been around for some time. Was this any further forward?
R.
Some
Councils had innovative schemes. The
DEF was concentrating on contacting store managers to encourage them to use
less packaging.
Q.
It
was suggested that supermarkets should have an ‘Anti plastic bag week.’
R.
This
was on the list of items to be brought up under reusable shopping bags. Staff training was also required.
Q.
Central
Government should insist that only recyclable packaging should be used.
R.
That
is in the list of questions.
Q.
Bottles
should be returnable. Plastic waste was
mostly bottles.
R.
Promotional
glass containers was on the list.
Q.
Holland
was very strict about recycling.
Stronger leadership was required and children in school should receive
proper instruction on recycling.
R.
It
was difficult to get people in power to take responsibility.
Lizzy Savage reported that cotton reusable fair
trade bags were on order to both promote DEF and the current campaign. Lizzy urged more members to get involved in
this campaign.
Phil Pennington felt that the Steering Group had
been very proactive since the last meeting.
Recommendation
That the draft letter to be sent to supermarkets be
taken to the Environment Overview and Scrutiny Committee for their approval.
5.
Carbon Neutrality – Work in
Bennetts End
Don Palmer, Bennetts End Estate Warden, detailed a
proposal to make Dacorum the first Borough in England to achieve the lowest
carbon footprint or to become carbon neutral.
Ashton Hayes Parish Council (Cheshire) first launched a project in 2006
to encourage the community to think about how they impact on climate change and
CO2 emissions. The launch involved the
local authority as well as the community.
Grants have been awarded from DEFRA and they have received backing to
complete a renewable power station for the village.
Don’s proposal was that every ward would challenge
another to reduce its carbon footprint.
Hertfordshire University would be invited to count the carbon footprint
and then return after, say, a year to
calculate any saving. Examples of how
to save would be; reusing plastic bags, walking to the shops and buying local
foods. Project Leaders would be
required and Don suggested that Ward Councillors would be ideal. There would be no cost involved. The website giving an example of this
project is:
Don suggested that Bennetts End and Highfield should
pilot the scheme due to current links already in place; and this could
encourage Berkhamsted, Boxmoor etc. Don
asked that everybody should go out and push for improvements in their areas.
Questions and Answers
Q.
How
can this be measured?
R.
Schools
were teaching children how to calculate their carbon footprints. It was hoped that students would carry out
the measurements. Encouragement was
required for everybody to want to be the first carbon neutral house. The scheme must not cost anybody any money
and it must not be compulsory.
Q.
In
Berkhamsted the Environment Committee tried to encourage the Town Council to do
something by using the same example.
Berkhamsted Town Council had agreed to set up a Working Party and would
be bringing in two experts to act as external advisors to get them
started. HCC had run a workshop for
schools. Astley Cooper School was one
of the best examples in the country for reducing energy use (they have a wind
turbine).
R.
Wallpaper
solar panels would be in production next year.
Outcome
Phil Pennington stated that the challenge had been
set and DEF supported it.
6.
Tree Warden Scheme
Ruth Chapman, Trees and Woodlands Manager, showed a
Tree Council environmentally friendly, reusable bag to the Forum. Ruth then explained the Tree Warden Scheme,
which was a project run by the Tree Council (UK wide) to encourage volunteers
to get involved in trees in their local area.
This scheme was launched in 1990 in response to the great storm of l987
and was originally parish based but it was now felt that it was required in
urban areas. An informal Woodland
Warden Scheme has been running for some time aimed at urban woodlands but now
the Tree Council was promoting the scheme for the urban areas. An article would be in the Spring Dacorum
Digest with a formal launch on 17 April in the Council Chamber.
The Tree Council have produced a Tree Warden
handbook and the Countryside Management Service was giving support for training
in tree identification, leading walks, monitoring trees on development sites
and identifying special trees and hedges in specific areas. A letter will be sent to all members of the
DEF giving more information and inviting them to the launch on 17 April.
Questions and Answers
Q.
Is
this scheme to protect trees or to chop them down?
R.
People
generally like to save trees, but there were cases where people did not want
them near their homes if they were causing problems. The Council carries out routine inspections. The Tree Wardens would be required to identify
trees that were significant to local people and to inform the Council about
them to enable them to be recorded and promoted. The Tree Wardens could also suggest planting sites.
Q.
Can
the Council protect trees that are currently deemed not worth protecting?
R.
There
are many trees in private properties that are worth protecting but can only be
protected by TPOs when threatened. It
may be worth identifying trees that were worth keeping.
Q.
Concern
was expressed that trees were cut down to enable back garden development.
R.
If
significant trees in back gardens were identified, they could be protected if
back garden development was being considered.
Q.
Trees
in public parks were often damaged by the grass mowers.
R.
The
Council would try to limit this damage.
Councillor Chapman suggested that wards could
organise health walks to encourage residents to see that ‘trees matter.’ The more knowledge gathered on trees that
can be passed on, the better it is for everybody. Councillor Chapman gave his support to the scheme.
7.
Water Group
Roger Hands from the Dacorum
Environmental Forum Water Group gave a brief presentation, which included an
option study related to the River Gade Sustainability Study. Roger Hands highlighted the DEFWG website
now being developed but not yet live.
From the findings of the Flood Risk
Assessment (requested by DBC, Watford, St Albans and Three Rivers), Dacorum is
fairly clear of flood risk with the biggest problems being outside of the
borough. Gadebridge Park was flooded
but it was not a ‘flooding’ flood, it was an indication that the water table
was waterlogged. DBC would commission
another report in the future.
Richard Blackburn, Development Plans
Manager, detailed the recommendations in the Strategic Flood Risk Assessment
and a brief was circulated. It was
noted that the sentence before last of the brief should read ‘Within and around these areas it is
important that effective flood risk management policies are implemented and
that future development does not
contribute to increased flood risk.’
There had been concern about the sewage
works – it was important to keep the water released to supply the canal. A decision had been made to invest in the
Berkhamsted sewage works. A large reed
bed was being put in place to purify the discharged water from Berkhamsted and
to be a wetland area for birds. This
was a positive move forward. The
Countryside Management Service was assisting in establishing a website that
would be available in the near future.
This would highlight some of the issues currently being visited. Roger asked for suggestions for improvements
to the website.
Questions and Answers
Q.
What is the situation with water harvesting?
R.
Water harvesting was very important. Water scarcity was dealt with last year. There would be pages on the website on these
issues. It was hoped to get the whole
population involved.
Q.
What was the environmental impact of Buncefield on water in Hemel
Hempstead?
R.
This was a major concern and the final report was awaited. There was a website on Buncefield.
Phil Pennington confirmed that the
website had a lot of helpful documents on it.
The Water Group was very active.
8.
Dacorum
Partnership
Andy Hardstaff stated that the Dacorum
Community Plan had been published. The
action plan would be circulated with the minutes. The Dacorum Partnership has a work programme to refresh the
Community Plan, which has to be presented to them next January 2009. A working group would be set up to work on
this.
9.
Any Other
Business
Hemel Hempstead
GM Action Group – Public Consultation
Rudolph Kirst expressed concern
about the future of nuclear power, the managing of radioactive waste and
decision making on GM crops by the European Commission.
Uranium will last for 30 – 40
years, radioactive waste will take hundreds to thousands of years to become
neutral and will cost £20 billion to achieve.
There was no waste disposal plan in place. The Government of the 1960s had no policies on nuclear
waste. There was no ethical or
beneficial future for nuclear power.
Rudolph Kirst had responded to
the consultation on behalf of the Hemel Hempstead GM Action Group.
Bus Services in
Dacorum
Paul Harris of Friends of the
Earth expressed concerns about the cuts to bus services in Dacorum as public
transport was needed to make Dacorum a sustainable borough – these cuts
affected key services in Tring, Berkhamsted and Hemel Hempstead. Carbon taxation on cars and packaging would
be brought in from May 2009.
Councillor Chapman, Environmental
Services Portfolio Holder, stated that the Council had a statutory
responsibility to provide free bus passes for the over 60s. This was costing DBC £500,000 - £600,000 and
was under financed by the Government.
The Council had budget problems and difficult decisions had to be
made. Funding the bus service was a
Herts County Council statutory responsibility and DBC could not afford to fund
non statutory items. Discussions were
taking place and HCC had been given 14 months notice of this action. Councillor Chapman objected to how it had
been reported in the Gazette.
Councillor Anderson stated that
no bus routes had yet been cut. The
Environment Overview and Scrutiny Committee had discussed the issue in
considerable detail and the minutes of that meeting would be distributed to the
members of the Forum for information.
Detailed negotiations were going on between the two authorities
regarding this. Some bus routes were
hardly used and HCC needed to address this issue as the statutory body. Any alternative income identified would be
used for the Council’s difficult budgetary situation.
Outcome
Phil Pennington agreed that this
should be put on the next agenda.
Regional Spatial
Strategy – East of England Plan
Richard Blackburn stated that
this had been put back and would be completed by the end of February – early
March. Richard hoped to report back
then to outline the implications.
10. Next Meeting Date
Election of a new Chair and Vice-Chair will be on
the next agenda.
The next meeting of the Dacorum Environmental Forum
will be on Thursday 27 March 2008 at 7.30 p.m., Council Chamber, Civic
Centre.
Note: The Agendas and Minutes from the Dacorum
Environment Forum meetings can be found on the Dacorum Environmental Forum
website www.dacenvforum.org.uk